Sport Panthers firing Dave Gettleman looks bad now, might look worse later

23:42  17 july  2017
23:42  17 july  2017 Source:   Sporting News

Former Panthers players are delighted over Dave Gettleman's firing

  Former Panthers players are delighted over Dave Gettleman's firing The Panthers shockingly fired Dave Gettleman, and his former players aren't exactly crying about it."After much thought and a long evaluation of our football operations, I have decided to relieve Dave Gettleman of his duties as general manager," team owner Jerry Richardson said in a statement. "I want to thank Dave for the role he played in our success over the past four seasons. While the timing of this decision is not ideal, a change is needed.

Kudos to JR for hiring Dave Gettleman ! He has done an incredible job over the past couple of years and both the team and the community is now getting to celebrate Its all the bad contracts and poor mid level talent scouting that Hurney did that handcuffed the Panthers and put them in Salary cap jail.

But Panthers General Manager Dave Gettleman thinks an offseason spent plugging in veteran parts has his team closer to the group that went 15-1 in 2015 Only problem is that the division won’t be the ludicrously bad division they were in the 2015. You will actually have to earn it this year and looking

There was the unprecedented success in Carolina Panthers history with one Super Bowl appearance and two other playoff berths coming in a four-year span.

There was getting the franchise quarterback signed to a long-term contract in drama-free fashion.

There was building a roster for 2017 that has all the earmarks needed to win a Lombardi Trophy.

This is the type of work that should have gotten Dave Gettleman a contract extension.

Instead, he was fired.

In an NFL offseason of shocking moves involving general managers — led by John Dorsey’s ouster in Kansas City last month and John Lynch’s hiring in San Francisco despite having no front-office experience — Gettleman’s dismissal Monday by Carolina takes the cake. The only insight given for this move provided by media-reclusive Panthers owner Jerry Richardson came in a team-released statement that claimed "a change is needed."

Former Panthers LB Jon Beason says Dave Gettleman accused him of faking injury

  Former Panthers LB Jon Beason says Dave Gettleman accused him of faking injury Monday's firing of the Panthers general manager came as a shock to most, including Beason, who was traded to the Giants in 2013.Beason went to three Pro Bowls with the Panthers, who selected him in the first round of the 2007 NFL Draft. After his third straight Pro Bowl season in 2010, a September Achilles injury cost Beason all but one game of the 2011 season.

Carolina Panthers Dave Gettleman approval fan poll - Cat Scratch Reader. Going into the season opener this team was expected to challenge for the NFC title again. The Panthers now sit at 1-3 and hardly look the part as NFC contender.

Where we’re at right now is we’re gonna look at players, because right now we just don’t know,” he said. “I haven’t spoken to Michael in a little bit. No matter how bad the perceived need is, I’m not going to reach. Panthers general manager Dave Gettleman , on a weak class of offensive linemen.

On the surface, it wasn't — unless one of two things happened.

The first: Richardson already has a candidate in mind that he didn’t want to risk losing elsewhere, combined with concerns that the 66-year-old Gettleman would be retiring at season’s end (something Gettleman told me in February he had no plans of doing).

My Sporting News colleague Vinnie Iyer has compiled a list of seven potential Gettleman replacements.

Dave Gettleman © (Tadd Haislop) Dave Gettleman

Dorsey makes the most sense.

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Dorsey was a finalist for Carolina’s GM job in 2013 but instead headed to what he believed was a more appealing opportunity in Kansas City. Five days after news of Dorsey’s decision surfaced in the media, Gettleman was promoted by the Panthers.

Former Panthers LB Jon Beason says Dave Gettleman accused him of faking injury

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General manager Dave Gettleman discussed Carolina's improved salary cap situation, the possibility of using the franchise tag and more. "We’re not in bad shape. The Panthers might have more cap space to work with, but Gettleman ’s views on meticulous roster building aren’t changing.

Look for Gettleman to select running back Derrick Henry early, or one like San Jose State running back Tyler Ervin late . 6 Panthers who may lose their spot to rookies in 2017.

Dorsey couldn’t be named as Gettleman’s replacement immediately, as the Panthers would face NFL punishment by not honoring the Rooney Rule with at least one minority candidate interview. Yet with Dorsey free and clear to work anywhere he wants, he could be in Gettleman’s chair by the start of training camp.

Whoever gets the job won’t be inheriting a bare cupboard.

Gettlemen and his staff spent this offseason addressing the bulk of personnel issues that contributed to Carolina’s 6-10 record in 2016. The Panthers upgraded their offensive line at left tackle by signing Matt Kalil and provided Newton more weapons by using their first two draft picks on dynamic college players in Stanford running back Christian McCaffrey and Ohio State wide receiver Curtis Samuel.

Gettleman added the veteran presence coach Ron Rivera was seeking on defense by signing edge-rusher Julius Peppers and safety Mike "Pops" Adams in free agency. The Panthers also did not fumble the use of the franchise tag again, a la Josh Norman, in 2016 by inking defensive tackle Kawaan Short to a multiyear deal.

Thomas Davis: 'Unfair' to say Dave Gettleman's firing was because of contract negotiations

  Thomas Davis: 'Unfair' to say Dave Gettleman's firing was because of contract negotiations Thomas Davis said he and the Panthers were doing standard contract negotiations when Dave Gettleman was fired.Common speculation indicated Gettleman's firing had to do with ongoing contract negotiations with Davis and tight end Greg Olsen, because team owner Jerry Richardson wanted to keep his star players happy.

Home•The Latest • Dave Gettleman ’s 15 Most Intriguing Comments. Gettleman won’t fall out of love with big hog mollies anytime soon, but look for the Panthers to add faster guys to the receiving corps and secondary. I’ve also said that when that cap jumped five million, that put us in a bad spot.

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In many ways, the 2017 Panthers look even better on paper entering the season than the 2015 squad that went 15-1 and blew through the postseason before blowing it against the Broncos in Super Bowl 50.

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Mind you, Gettleman had his flaws. He probably could have secured compensation from another team for Norman last season rather than giving the cornerback a clear lane to free agency by lifting the franchise tag roughly a month after using it on him.

Gettleman also could have shown a softer touch when dealing with players, especially two of the best in franchise history in Steve Smith and DeAngelo Williams.

An already contentious professional relationship between Gettleman and Smith ended when the latter learned he was cut in 2014 while listening to the radio. Like Smith, Williams also harbors bitterness toward Gettleman about his Panthers release. Williams celebrated Gettleman’s firing on Twitter by calling him a “snake.”

Williams might want to hold back on future venomous comments and remember that, by his own account, only two members of the Panthers organization called him with condolences following the death of his mother to breast cancer — Gettleman and Rivera.

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  Former Panthers GM Marty Hurney could be back after Dave Gettleman firing, report says Panthers owner Jerry Richardson is expected to meet with Hurney about becoming the team's interim GM.Team owner Jerry Richardson reportedly is expected to talk to former Carolina GM Marty Hurney about becoming the interim general manager after the team fired Dave Gettleman Monday.

Honeymoon is over for Panthers GM Dave Gettleman , who must do these 3 things, and fast. Underperforming players and plain old bad luck exacerbated the problem, but Gettleman knows that the buck stops with him. And whatever you do, don’t look down.

34 thoughts on “Trying to Understand the Panthers ’ Offseason Plans During a Chat With Dave Gettleman ”. We are lauding Gettleman ’s draft because most players look good or have potential. However, We lost 8 games and some weren’t close either. The Offensive line was bad for the most

If he were a serpent like others in his profession, Gettleman’s true character would have shown in 2013. Gettleman could have maneuvered behind the scenes to get Rivera fired after a rough start to the season amid questions about whether he could become a successful head coach. Gettleman also could have hired his own friends and former co-workers to replace members of his personnel staff rather than give them the chances to keep their jobs.

Gettleman did neither, and the Panthers were better off for it. Gettleman and Rivera formed an excellent bad-cop/good-cop tandem in dealing with Panthers players and fielding a team that became the first repeat NFC South champion since the NFL’s 2002 realignment.

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The reality is that even the best NFL general managers won’t be perfect on all personnel decisions. They also have to make tough salary decisions that won’t always make them popular in locker rooms, especially decisions involving older players with their hands held out like linebacker Thomas Davis and tight end Greg Olsen.

That leads to the second rumored reason for Gettleman’s firing: his reported reticence in paying veterans who could be on the downside sooner than later. Such a decision with Richardson favorites like Davis and Olsen — both of whom want new contracts — may have put Gettleman at odds with his owner.

Should this indeed be the case — and it very well could be since GMs are almost never canned in mid-July after all the important personnel decisions were made — Richardson has a short-term memory about the salary-cap damage previously caused by the Panthers making financial choices based upon emotions and personal feelings about players rather than what’s in the best long-term interest of the club.

Firing someone as good as Gettleman might ultimately be something Richardson will want to forget, as well.

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